Update 2: Finally, the video has been found and added at the bottom.
Update: Thanks to TV Squad for taking my tip. I’m still looking for the video.
I’m watching the Magic game and at halftime there is a new version of the ABC House commercials they’ve been running (which are brilliant by the way) and it shows Dominic Monaghan, Charlie from LOST, playing foosball with Courtney Cox, who has a new show this fall. At one point in the commercial someone says to Monaghan “Aren’t you dead?” to which he replies “I was.” After seeing the video again, I realize that my recollection was slightly off. Towards the end Patrick Dempsey, challenging Dominic Monaghan, says “you’re so dead” to which Monaghan replies “actually, I was.”
Ok, what?
We all watched Charlie drown at the end of season three. It was horrible. He sacrificed himself to destroy the Looking Glass so the Freighter could be contacted. But what’s with this tease? “I was.” Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof have been critical of ABC for creating LOST promotions and commercials in the past that tend to offer more information then they like, could this be an example?
We’re at the beginning of nine very long months before the final season of LOST begins and almost zero hints were dropped in the finale as to what could potentially happen. But Charlie coming back? It would explain why Hurley has been carrying around the guitar case since returning to the Island. Does that mean setting off the bomb really did reset things? Oh man this is going to drive me nuts.
That finale was pretty much awesome. The way everything played out, from Miles asking what everyone was thinking: “what if dropping the bomb down there causes the incident you’re hoping to prevent” to Jacob showing up in all of our cast members lives. Here’s what I think I know and what my thoughts are for the final season:
Jacob has always been the good guy. He’s done everything to make sure certain people were on the island. The other, unnamed person, is the bad guy. He’s wanted Jacob dead for hundreds of years and has finally found his loophole. How this other guy appeared as Locke for a few days or, I assume, showed up as Ben’s daughter to convince him to follow Locke’s orders, I have no idea. Perhaps he’s who the one responsible for all the other “sightings” in the past from Eco’s brother to Christian Shepherd. Now that he has gotten Ben to kill Jacob, everything changes. But I don’t know how.
Richard is just a pawn. Who he really works for is questionable, maybe he’s just some sort of Island intermediary. I’m not really sure. But whoever these “good guys” are, the whole “shadow of the statue” deal, they really are the good guys. They do, in fact, work for Jacob. But are they too late? Can they stop this other person without Jacob? I don’t know.
Would the Incident have occurred without Juliet setting the bomb off (oh man was that crazy)? I guess it’s a moot point but I’m guessing history is playing out as it was supposed to. I’m guessing that Daniel was, in fact, wrong after all.
So the bomb went off and we ended with a white screen. No hint of what’s to come, no teaser — save for the awesome opening eye — nothing. So what exactly happened when the bomb went off? Did the Island skip in time again, did it course correct? Did it reset? I’m not sure.
The whole episode, at least as far as Jacob was concerned, had to do with people having a choice for the course of their lives. Had Kate decided to stop stealing as a kid she would have never been on flight 815 and so forth. So will the final season show us what could have been? Or will we see what happened as a result of their poor past decisions? I really have no idea. Are you noticing a theme here?
The fact of the matter is that the sense of mystery is completely intact. There are a million possibilities for the final season and I’m pretty happy about it. Needless to say, this finale was a game changer it’s just not clear in what way. I love it.
Update: After some looking around online for the book Jacob was reading while Locke fell out of the window, I discovered the title is Everything that Rises Must Converge. The plot summary from Amazon sounds pretty similar:
Collection of nine short stories by Flannery O’connor, published posthumously in 1965. The flawed characters of each story are fully revealed in apocalyptic moments of conflict and violence that are presented with comic detachment.
That’s a pretty good summary of what we know to be true about LOST and could possibly be the only bit of foreshadowing we’re going to get.
Tonight is the season finale of LOST which means something crazy is going to happen. Let this be your one and only spoiler warning. Everything that follows is a combination of instant reactions and comments during commercials, with a bit of speculation thrown in for good measure. Here we go!
Very bad stuff happens on the “rescue day.” This episode will be epic.
The coffin was not for Ben or anyone else… a new character will soon be revealed.
Jin learned a new word, boom. I really hope that’s not foreshadowing.
THE REAL OTHERS ARE FREAKING AWESOME!
Why is Ben so important? So important that Widmore wants him alive, so important that the real others would initiate on a full-on attack against the commando unit, so important that for helping Kate and Sayid are allowed to leave the island, “just like that.” Something tells me that while Locke seems to be the new “chosen” one, Ben still has a significant amount of pull and perhaps the Locke and Ben partnership is ready to begin… either that or Ben, who always has a plan, has an out for Locke.
WALT!!!!!
Who is this Jeremy Bentham guy? He obviously knows the truth.
The people who stay on the island are still in danger. But who or what is causing the danger? Widmore? Ben? Someone else?
The lies… the fake story… it was Locke’s suggestion? There wasn’t someone behind the curtains pulling the strings, creating the story? Something is missing.
Haha, the “magic box!”
So the teases and hints about time travel are real? Are Ben and Locke going to “move” the island through time? How does that help them in their situation? How exactly would that hide the island? Again, something is missing.
Wait. Sawyer is on the helicopter. There is no “choice” to stay. Again, something is seriously missing…
It seems like there is a constant swing back and fourth between Ben being fairly good, at least in his intentions, and pure evil. It started when Ben was first introduced. He seemed to be the clear cut villain, the evil genius who ran the island. Over time it seemed that just because Ben made some pretty dirty decisions, he always had the best of intentions at heart, especially when it came to matters of the island. I just saw Ben in pure evil form, complete vengeance and lack of any “plan” that he might have had. We already know there is a funky time issue going on, but that it doesn’t really work with radios… so is the boat about to go boom?
Was Charlotte born on the island?
Well… now we know that Sawyer did in fact make a choice. The question is will he make it back to the island before it disappears? You had to figure though that Sawyer would pull off some sort of heroic movie. His character has changed a lot over the course of the show as well. He started off as the lone ranger who didn’t care about anyone else but himself and now he’s dodging bullets to save Claire and jumping out of helicopters so that others can make it off the island.
It seems that characters evolving is a big thing on the show, which makes me question Jack a bit. Based on the flash-forwards it seems that he does, in fact, change. His discussion with Locke about believing in miracles falls right in with the Man of Science/Man of Faith storyline that are Jack and Locke, but it just seems unfortunate that Jack can’t seem to change without “proof.” But what that does mean is that whatever causes him to finally change is obviously very, very substantial.
Jeremy Bentham isn’t really his name… it’s a code of some sort? Who was in the coffin?!?! Maybe it was Ben.
Hurley is being haunted/visited/tortured by those killed on the island… not good.
How creepy was that when Christian Shepherd showed up and told Michael he was done?
Jin died… in the explosion of the boat… Two people are responsible for Jin’s death (as per the last episode). One is Sun’s father and I presume the other is Widmore… or perhaps even Ben which would put an interesting spin on things when things come into play in the future.
Unfortunately it looks like the two that died “in the water” are going to be Lupedis, who will easily be explained since he was the pilot listed on the manifest, and Desmond. Desmond won’t be able to be explained on the manifest and would really, really suck. This is LOST so there could be another explanation that has yet to present itself, but right now it’s not looking good.
I’m pretty sure Sun is holding Ben responsible for Jin’s death… and has chosen team Widmore. This is going to be pretty interesting after all.
Awesome. Sawyer makes it to shore! Too bad he now has to live feeling like he should have died with his friends, even though unknown to him, they actually survived. Is that irony? I think that’s irony.
Wow. So the transfer of power is a reality. Whoever moves the island can NEVER come back. Ben protects the island by banishing himself from it. And now Locke is officially in charge of Alpert and the crew. Hopefully this means answers are just around the corner… unfortunately the corner is next season and nine months away.
So the island really… did… move. Something tells me we’re probably not going to know where, let alone see it again, for a very long time.
It seemed moving the island was the most painful thing Ben ever had to do. Though it also seems that he really did “warp” from the strange ice cave right to the desert two years later. I’m hoping we see Ben again before next season but I have my doubts about that as well.
And I know irony when I see the second phase of LOST beginning with yet another plane crash. (I know, technically a helicopter isn’t a plane, but it’s close enough.)
Well, it looks like there really is going to be a hunt for the island and evidently Claire doesn’t want Aaron to go. I’m trying to remember what the crazy psychic said to Claire before the baby was born. I know that he told her she had to raise him, and then all of a sudden he want’s her on the flight to LA.
I like how something as big as moving the island wasn’t enough proof for Jack to believe… something really, really big has to happen to change his mind.
Jack actually took Locke’s advice.
I think Desmond is safe! Holy crap! I didn’t see that one coming. Who would have thought that Penny would be on the boat that found the life raft! The reunion is complete! I’ve said before that the most emotional moment I’ve seen on TV was when Jack Bauer was saying goodbye to his daughter right before flying the nuclear bomb into the middle of the desert (which of corse he survived). However, I would say that the initial Penny/Desmond phone call from a few weeks back, combined with the reunion here on the boat, is one of the most emotional and surprising sequences to make TV, it surely gives Bauer’s goodbye a run for the money.
Oh COME ON! Octagon Global Recruiting…. are they for real going to do another alternative reality game…
So Penny Widmore is responsible for the fake story? She clearly isn’t working with her dad. Clearly considering Jack said “don’t let him find you.” But I think Jack and Desmond will meet again since “I’ll see you in another life” was used again… very cool!
So no one dies in the water… it’s just a story? A complete lie? Why did they insist on telling us that two people didn’t make it? DAH! LOST writers and their red hearings!
So… Jeremy Bentham is really… drum roll… JOHN LOCKE!!!!!!!!!! So Locke left the island, was able to get in contact with everyone, and then somehow died. In order to get back, everyone has to go together which is obviously a problem because Sun is now on Team Widmore, Kate hates Jack, and well, Desmond is with Penny (which will make Ben finding her even more interesting), and who knows where Lupedis is. The second phase of LOST seems like it’s going to be very, very good. The fact that Jack doesn’t even hesitate when he sees creepy Ben (see my evil discussion above) and without pause listens to Ben’s ides and basically agrees to go along with them says a hell of a lot. Jack was inches away from killing Ben a few Island Days ago and now, something like three or four years in the future, Jack is ready to follow Ben completely! Something really, really big, bigger than the island moving, happens. Something so big that the death of John Locke, of all people, throws Jack into a complete tailspin! What a great turn of events!
We now start the very long wait for the next season of LOST, which isn’t scheduled to air until next January or February. There were a lot of answers, but in true LOST form some serious questions were presented. It’ll be a long summer full of speculation and over-anilizaiton. And then of course there is Octagon Worldwide Recruiting. Haha. What did you think about the episode?
All the normal spoiler warnings apply. Proceed with caution.
So part one of the LOST season finale aired tonight. Instead of going over everything at the end of the episode I’m going to write thoughts down during the commercial breaks. A “live blog” of sorts. Here they are:
The tension on the rescue flight was so thick it was painful… something bad happens pre-”rescue.”
It was kind of sad seeing Kate and Sayid return home without anyone to greet them.
The Orchard is not a good thing.
The reporters at the press conference seemed to see right through the set “story.” Especially when the reporter asked Kate if she was 6 months pregnant when the US Marshal detained her in Australia. The only tidbit thrown was that Jin was not one of the mysterious two that “survived” the crash but didn’t get rescued. It doesn’t make sense but it’s starting to look like Desmond is one of those two. Could the other be Locke, or maybe Sawyer?
Sun has balls. Also she said two people are responsible for the death of Jin, one is her father for treating them so poorly that they wanted to escape to America, but the other is as yet undetermined. Assuming that Jin and a handful of other unnamed extras make the boat it looks like whatever happens on the island doesn’t determine everyones fate. Something is going to happen on the boat as well.
Even though Ben has pretty much been passed over by Locke he still knows all the Island secrets and therefore has power over Locke — and he sure isn’t sharing.
The Sayid/Nadia reunion was pretty great.
Nice bit where Hurley hears the whispers on the way to his party — which was wonderfully ironic and sweet all at the same time, especially the “hunting boar” reference. That is until Hurley saw the numbers in the car… freaky.
There are too many commercials in this episode.
So far there have been two blatant rabbit’s foot keychains in the episode. One in the hand of the pilot of the rescue plane and the other on Hurley’s keychain. Something tells me our “survivors” are about to go through the rabbit hole. I know that’s an Alice in Wonderland reference when the title is a Wizard of Oz reference, both of which are the most referenced pieces of fiction in the show. Having Kate ware ruby slippers probably wouldn’t make sense in the context of the show.
Maybe I’m looking too into this but at the eulugy Jack says about his father “I loveed you and I missed you.” Does Jack and Christian meet up with before the “rescue?” And holy crap, Jack now knows about Claire! How about sticking to the “story” and not freaking out when he found out! And how creepy was it when Claire’s mom told Kate she had a lovely baby?
Doesn’t it feel like Michael was sticking to a set “story” when he was telling Sun and Jin how he and Walt got back to New York?
Holy. Freaking. Explosives! Now we know what that weird heart-beat sensor on the commando is. If he dies, the boat goes with him.
FINALLY!!! The real Others came out to play! These are the ones that dress in drab, walk barefoot and steal kids. Can’t wait to see what’s going on with them.
Pretty impressive that Ben goes to give himself up for the Island…
And now I’m pretty sure I know what happens to Jin and Desmond and the rest of the people on the boat… I don’t think I’m happy with that.
There you have it. Two weeks from now the final two hours for There’s No Place Like Home and hopefully some explanations from the true Island Others.
Clearly another set up episode, but a pretty solid one for sure. Here are some thoughts running through my head:
Clearly the Darhma Initiative is still alive and kicking, as shown by the logo on the “secondary protocol” pamphlet in the ship
Locke was chosen pretty much at birth to be the one to come to the Island and save it. For some reason Alpert didn’t like Locke’s choice of the knife and refused to bring him as a child. Later, in high school, Locke was presented the opportunity to go to “science camp” run by Mitelos, the company Juliet signed on to work with when she met Alpert. Then, in the rehab center, Locke met another Island dweller (see below) who basically told him the course of his life. “Take a walkabout.” So did the Island bring the entire plane down just to get Locke?
It seems that the true “others,” the ones who stay behind the scenes and want the “special children,” like Walt, have nothing to do with Darham or Widmore. It’s a group run by Alpert (maybe Jacob) who apparently don’t age. They seem to be able to come and go from the Island at will and are able to find anyone, anywhere, but they can’t make things happen. They can influence, ala suggesting the walkabout, but they can’t force people to the Island. They also might be another race/species. Did you notice that both of their eyes were completely black… creepy.
“Funky Time” is alive and true. The doctor who washed up dead last week finally got killed and dropped overboard this week.
What’s the weird device on the army dudes arm? I don’t think it’s a bomb, or detonator, it looks more like an XM radio. Whatever it is it’s going to play out some point this season. It’s the old writing adage. If you mention a shotgun on the wall, it has to play into the story at some point. They call it foreshadowing.
In order to save the Island, Locke has to move it. So is the Island not an actual God created landmass but something made by humans… or Alpert and co? If so, how did Darhma find it in the first place? I really would like to see an Island-centric episode where we get Island specific flashbacks. It is an actual character after all.
What’s up with Claire? In less than a day she went from normal, useless Claire to sitting in the creepy cabin with Christian Shepherd (her dad) who is representing Jacob who evidently runs the place. Like I said last week, Christian’s family (Jack and Claire) play a big role in this and I can’t seem to figure out what it is. Claire seems to be “chosen” whereas Jack isn’t… or perhaps Jack refuses to be chosen which is why he ends up off the Island. That would make sense considering he wants to figure out how to get back. Perhaps he finally accepts that he was chosen and missed his chance. That’d explain why he went nuts.
The Oceanic Six aren’t dead like I speculated last week. I think it was a nice bit of writing to set up the whole “we see dead people” story line and tease it with the “I’ve been dead for twelve years” line in the preview. It gave us something to talk about and then this week we realized the comment came in Locke’s dream sequence. Clever. They’re not dead.
Michael can’t die. It wasn’t a jammed or broken gun, but no matter what happens Michael can’t die. Maybe his purpose hasn’t been served yet?
A showdown is coming, most likely at the Temple. It looks like the big two-hour season finale we’ve been promised is going to set up one hell of a showdown. Locke is going to come face-to-face with these various characters he’s interacted with his whole life (why do I keep thinking of Jack meeting Desmond and Desmond saying “I’ll see you in another life brother”?), Jack and the rest of the beach people are going to follow the army team to the temple and everyone is going to have a nice chat over scones and tea… no, there’s going to be blood. Something big is going to happen.
That’s all until next week, when it looks like we’ll see just how the Oceanic Six got to the mainland. My guess is this comes in the form of a flash forward. Considering we’ve recently seen flash forward’s for Jack, Sun, Kate, Hurley and Sayid my hope is that the real sixth member is revealed. It seems to easy to make Aaron the sixth. I’m ready to be shocked. We’ll see next week.
